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is not part of this problem. so it should not be part of the discussion. harry reid, in fact, has been extremely firm on that. he said i will not be part of discussions that include social security as part of this bargain. so if they stick to that, then they won't be. >> yeah, there's so many moving pieces. susan, today, the president's going to meet with small business owners. friday he's going to montgomery, pennsylvania, to visit a small business that will be impacted. very campaign like stuff. what's he trying to do here? >> yeah, who is he not meeting with this week? that would be congressional -- that would be members of congress, especially those house republicans would be the critical partners on this. so he's trying to take a very different approach than he took in the first term and the early go rounds on this. and that is to build some public support tap on the good feeling from his re-election to give -- as ryan pointed out. there's some democrats including powerful ones like harry reid that say medicare and medicaid have to be off the table. those democrats do not include
reid said about that. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work out something on the cliff and is six weeks later republicans could pull the same game they did before. >> dana, any indication progress is being made on this or just more roadblocks coming into the picture? >> you know, i was just as a breakfast where bowles and simpson were speaking, and it was a very gloomy and pessimistic affair, and erskine bowles was saying he sees barely eve an one-third possibility of avoiding the fiscal cliff. it appears everybody is just posturing right now. the president is doing it, congressional leaders are doing it. the few who do seem to be willing to compromise are for now the outliers. in fact, more obstacles are being thrown up, and we've got all of ten legislative days left in which to fix this problem. >> well, gloomy and pessimistic are not the words that we want to hear or i think, clarence, that we expected to hear because it seems that before the election there was actually some uniform opinion this absolutely was going to get done by the end of the year. what changed? >> well, it'
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